The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states to award all their EVs to whichever presidential ticket wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states.
Will Illinois and the other Blue States honor their commitment or remove this joke requirement from the books?
Haven’t looked into this In a while, but I’m pretty sure that agreement includes a caveat that the whole thing only takes effect once the compact includes enough states to swing the results of the election, which i don’t know if they have yet. And even if they did, there’s probably also some language preventing the compact from being triggered by an election where the winner of the popular vote wins the electoral vote as well such as this one - they want to save it specifically to undermine the electoral college in case there’s a repeat of 2016, deluding themselves by believing that no Republican could ever win the popular vote ever again due to the demographic changes wrought on the country.
The NPVIC is an attempt at undermining the constitution and founding principles of the USA. Since the whole thing is a scheme to “UN-elect” Trump and he happened to win the popular vote, my guess is that it’ll go in the dustbin until the next time a “Treat against OUR Democracy(tm)” shows up.
It violates Article I Section 10 of the Constitution: **No State shall**, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, **enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State,** or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
Good luck getting a court to admit you have standing.
This one was really whiny but maybe thats how you are supposed to talk with liberals? I always thought anons yelling stuff on twitter was more effective, you break people dont whisper to them. But I know you know the futility of this exercise, still, thank you.
It is said and believed by some that Hell isn't fire and brimstone, but irredeemable separation from God while eternally suffering the self-inflicted torture of "living" with what you are...
Anyways, the Liberals seem to have lost the minority vote in greater numbers, so predictably the next four years for them are going to be rough. And so far, in this area, they seem to be settling on... blaming Latinos for their losses. Personally, I hope that's just the post-election mania talking.
You know, I keep hearing that by ~2035 White people will become a "Minority-Majority". Most of the same sources of that claim also tell me that its something to look forward to, even tho personally I fail to see why. Now, I call myself a race egalitarian or "Colorblind" (while you call it a "S**tlib"), so the way I see this approach to the matter is that its an expression of obvious and counterproductive antipathy towards White people.
Obviously, this is the opposite of a recipe for good relations, contradictory to "race is a Social-Construct" idea, and tactically asinine in addition to it all as it means "White" remains a majority until then. yadayada.
But, again I draw attention to the fact that I take it on faith that "race is a social construct". And that I want it to be the case in the future that we'll just ignore the differences in skin colors. Recent events and some pessimism have prompted me to make a rather different prediction of where race relations are going, or will be, by perhaps 2035.
It goes like this:
Latino and Hispanic unwillingness to comply with Liberal political interests will cause them to be labeled "White" in resentment. Eventually, this understanding will simply be popularly accepted. Either because of continued Latino defiance encouraging them to adopt it for themselves, or simply via an imposition done by Liberal officials and sympathizers in media and elsewhere. Then "Whites" will maintain a healthy majority into 2075. Nobody will learn a thing from it (but I could imagine which faction will suffer most).
It's always about CULTURE, not race. But a large percentage of Latinos ARE white, as descendants of mixing European & native blood; some also have sub Saharan African ancestry, but in the Spanish-speaking New World the Africans also mixed much more with the Europeans. In modern America, Latino immigrant families often integrate with Americans so much that within a few generations they are no longer identifying as Hispanic, but simply as white or black Americans. That is a huge factor in the failure of the whole "demographics is destiny" idea.
I get where you are coming from. And among those with whom you spend a lot of time, it may be effective for you, and by extension, for them.
I put the burden of explanation on them. Among those with whom I interact I have found it extremely useful to start my questions with one very simple challenge:
“ Please make a list of all the allowances that you think should be made for women in order for them to be what you would consider “equal”. And you will have in your own words, how you believe women to be inferior.”
I just leave those that I know with that. And it is not until the next time that we meet together that I begin asking more questions. And from those questions, spring discussions.
It works for any issue, and with any identity group/issue.
Many times, I will just ask them to make a list in their own words of all of the allowances they feel should be made for Black people.
Great read and this nails exactly how I feel when speaking with the left. The truth doesn't matter, it's all about how they feel about matter X and we need to give their feelings absolute deference over reality. It's hard to respect someone that takes that view.
It's become pervasive in political discourse and is the basis for massive movements. I'm happy this election was a vote against bad emotional takes but based on media reactions this disease isn't going anywhere.
The feedback cycle is broken. Specifically, your intended audience’s mind’s are broken.
Feedback is negative. Even when it’s well-intended and empathetic. Feedback doesn’t affirm. It’s uncomfortable to even think about feedback because thinking is a discriminatory act, which is bad. So all that’s viably left over is raw reaction. This pattern appears everywhere, most especially in the workplace. It’s terrifying. It’s why it feels like nothing changes, and why institutions, let alone political groups, don’t ever seem to change or introspect. Case in point: the latest major attempt at introspection (taking feedback) — WaPo’s public statement regarding the failure of contemporary journalism — was shouted down totally.
What will happen is that these unfortunate souls are rendered irrelevant. Not necessarily through malice or exasperation but because reality is too dynamic to accommodate them forever. It’ll take time. But it’ll happen.
We can’t reach them. They can’t reach themselves. Patience IMPO is the only solution. And I’ve been trying for years to not lose sight of that and let rage overwhelm me (speaking for myself there).
>>>To be honest, if you voted for Kamala, I don’t really think you can imagine it, but I’m asking you to try. You are tempted to retort here that’s society implicitly gives these kinds of anti-female messages to girls.<<<
I grew up in a very liberal area. As a boy, one of my first discomforts with the liberal regime was the way that explicit discrimination against white men is excused. I was on board with including everyone, listening to everyone, and treating everyone with respect and kindness-- so it felt odd that the same people promoting these values would turn around and explicitly exclude me, make me unwelcome, or silence me at every opportunity. At a young age, I started playing the game of "what would they think if I said the same things about their group".
Since then, I've witnessed a concerning amount of hatred towards my demographic. Vitriol spewed by activists at my university that would have had me expelled if I were to have said the reverse. People laughingly telling me how they will never hire a man, especially a white man, onto the team they manage-- and expecting me to laugh with them. Mandated workplace training on how to dismantle "whiteness". LinkedIn posts by managers at my company explaining how to make a habit of promoting women instead of men. Things and practices so extreme, I would often wonder at the legality of it all.
And yes, having now been an adult for quite some time, I see some biases and trends which somewhat favor white men. Much of the explicit hatred towards our demographic is mostly toothless. I'm not worried about being forced into second-class status. But I will never forget what I've been told so many times throughout my life-- I am not welcome in their camp. To anyone confused about why young white men aren't showing up to the party, maybe they should reconsider the massive neon sign out front that says, "No White Men".
Thank you for your candor, though I disagree with this statement: "Much of the explicit hatred towards our demographic is mostly toothless." All of that resentment adds up and hurts white men in many ways. Not through some made up matrix of stereotype threat, but in all the social games people play in offices and so on. When hirings and promotions come up, white men are always last in line. We pay the brunt of the tax burden in society and everyone else, with very few exceptions, lives on the back of our productivity. To put up with this is to live as a slave, and it is time to be free.
Try getting a job in academia or govt or participating in politics in a blue state as a white man. The unholy alliance between corporate America and DEI radicals has been to leave old white men in positions of power untouched and to make up for it by systematically excluding young white and asian men from elite opportunities in education, tech, medicine, banking etc. obviously white and Asian men are still there but in a far fewer numbers than a fair process would produce and you generally have to have the right parents.
Yeah the clumsy Harris messaging guilting men into voting democrat is a preview for when the system will try to shame white men into sustaining it even while that same system tries to exterminate them, or at least castrate them.
The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states to award all their EVs to whichever presidential ticket wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states.
Will Illinois and the other Blue States honor their commitment or remove this joke requirement from the books?
very unlikely
Haven’t looked into this In a while, but I’m pretty sure that agreement includes a caveat that the whole thing only takes effect once the compact includes enough states to swing the results of the election, which i don’t know if they have yet. And even if they did, there’s probably also some language preventing the compact from being triggered by an election where the winner of the popular vote wins the electoral vote as well such as this one - they want to save it specifically to undermine the electoral college in case there’s a repeat of 2016, deluding themselves by believing that no Republican could ever win the popular vote ever again due to the demographic changes wrought on the country.
Right. States representing 270 EV are needed. This is a blue state driven item. They should rethink, no?
The NPVIC is an attempt at undermining the constitution and founding principles of the USA. Since the whole thing is a scheme to “UN-elect” Trump and he happened to win the popular vote, my guess is that it’ll go in the dustbin until the next time a “Treat against OUR Democracy(tm)” shows up.
It violates Article I Section 10 of the Constitution: **No State shall**, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, **enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State,** or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
Good luck getting a court to admit you have standing.
This one was really whiny but maybe thats how you are supposed to talk with liberals? I always thought anons yelling stuff on twitter was more effective, you break people dont whisper to them. But I know you know the futility of this exercise, still, thank you.
Yes I was "code switching"
One of my favorite liberal owns is from Borzoi, "What is the last non-fiction book you read?"
It is said and believed by some that Hell isn't fire and brimstone, but irredeemable separation from God while eternally suffering the self-inflicted torture of "living" with what you are...
Anyways, the Liberals seem to have lost the minority vote in greater numbers, so predictably the next four years for them are going to be rough. And so far, in this area, they seem to be settling on... blaming Latinos for their losses. Personally, I hope that's just the post-election mania talking.
You know, I keep hearing that by ~2035 White people will become a "Minority-Majority". Most of the same sources of that claim also tell me that its something to look forward to, even tho personally I fail to see why. Now, I call myself a race egalitarian or "Colorblind" (while you call it a "S**tlib"), so the way I see this approach to the matter is that its an expression of obvious and counterproductive antipathy towards White people.
Obviously, this is the opposite of a recipe for good relations, contradictory to "race is a Social-Construct" idea, and tactically asinine in addition to it all as it means "White" remains a majority until then. yadayada.
But, again I draw attention to the fact that I take it on faith that "race is a social construct". And that I want it to be the case in the future that we'll just ignore the differences in skin colors. Recent events and some pessimism have prompted me to make a rather different prediction of where race relations are going, or will be, by perhaps 2035.
It goes like this:
Latino and Hispanic unwillingness to comply with Liberal political interests will cause them to be labeled "White" in resentment. Eventually, this understanding will simply be popularly accepted. Either because of continued Latino defiance encouraging them to adopt it for themselves, or simply via an imposition done by Liberal officials and sympathizers in media and elsewhere. Then "Whites" will maintain a healthy majority into 2075. Nobody will learn a thing from it (but I could imagine which faction will suffer most).
It's always about CULTURE, not race. But a large percentage of Latinos ARE white, as descendants of mixing European & native blood; some also have sub Saharan African ancestry, but in the Spanish-speaking New World the Africans also mixed much more with the Europeans. In modern America, Latino immigrant families often integrate with Americans so much that within a few generations they are no longer identifying as Hispanic, but simply as white or black Americans. That is a huge factor in the failure of the whole "demographics is destiny" idea.
I get where you are coming from. And among those with whom you spend a lot of time, it may be effective for you, and by extension, for them.
I put the burden of explanation on them. Among those with whom I interact I have found it extremely useful to start my questions with one very simple challenge:
“ Please make a list of all the allowances that you think should be made for women in order for them to be what you would consider “equal”. And you will have in your own words, how you believe women to be inferior.”
I just leave those that I know with that. And it is not until the next time that we meet together that I begin asking more questions. And from those questions, spring discussions.
It works for any issue, and with any identity group/issue.
Many times, I will just ask them to make a list in their own words of all of the allowances they feel should be made for Black people.
Equity of opportunity is the only sensible answer
Anti-Whites are the enemy. Until they fear the consequences of their Anti-Whiteness, there will be no correction. Some will never 'correct'.
This is excellent.
Great read and this nails exactly how I feel when speaking with the left. The truth doesn't matter, it's all about how they feel about matter X and we need to give their feelings absolute deference over reality. It's hard to respect someone that takes that view.
It's become pervasive in political discourse and is the basis for massive movements. I'm happy this election was a vote against bad emotional takes but based on media reactions this disease isn't going anywhere.
The feedback cycle is broken. Specifically, your intended audience’s mind’s are broken.
Feedback is negative. Even when it’s well-intended and empathetic. Feedback doesn’t affirm. It’s uncomfortable to even think about feedback because thinking is a discriminatory act, which is bad. So all that’s viably left over is raw reaction. This pattern appears everywhere, most especially in the workplace. It’s terrifying. It’s why it feels like nothing changes, and why institutions, let alone political groups, don’t ever seem to change or introspect. Case in point: the latest major attempt at introspection (taking feedback) — WaPo’s public statement regarding the failure of contemporary journalism — was shouted down totally.
What will happen is that these unfortunate souls are rendered irrelevant. Not necessarily through malice or exasperation but because reality is too dynamic to accommodate them forever. It’ll take time. But it’ll happen.
We can’t reach them. They can’t reach themselves. Patience IMPO is the only solution. And I’ve been trying for years to not lose sight of that and let rage overwhelm me (speaking for myself there).
Thanks for the piece. Very cool.
Im gonna send this to my mom.
I am curious about how she takes it.
🔥 Got some people I want to mail a printed copy of this to..
Thanks for writing.
Had to be said; thanks
>>>To be honest, if you voted for Kamala, I don’t really think you can imagine it, but I’m asking you to try. You are tempted to retort here that’s society implicitly gives these kinds of anti-female messages to girls.<<<
I grew up in a very liberal area. As a boy, one of my first discomforts with the liberal regime was the way that explicit discrimination against white men is excused. I was on board with including everyone, listening to everyone, and treating everyone with respect and kindness-- so it felt odd that the same people promoting these values would turn around and explicitly exclude me, make me unwelcome, or silence me at every opportunity. At a young age, I started playing the game of "what would they think if I said the same things about their group".
Since then, I've witnessed a concerning amount of hatred towards my demographic. Vitriol spewed by activists at my university that would have had me expelled if I were to have said the reverse. People laughingly telling me how they will never hire a man, especially a white man, onto the team they manage-- and expecting me to laugh with them. Mandated workplace training on how to dismantle "whiteness". LinkedIn posts by managers at my company explaining how to make a habit of promoting women instead of men. Things and practices so extreme, I would often wonder at the legality of it all.
And yes, having now been an adult for quite some time, I see some biases and trends which somewhat favor white men. Much of the explicit hatred towards our demographic is mostly toothless. I'm not worried about being forced into second-class status. But I will never forget what I've been told so many times throughout my life-- I am not welcome in their camp. To anyone confused about why young white men aren't showing up to the party, maybe they should reconsider the massive neon sign out front that says, "No White Men".
Thank you for your candor, though I disagree with this statement: "Much of the explicit hatred towards our demographic is mostly toothless." All of that resentment adds up and hurts white men in many ways. Not through some made up matrix of stereotype threat, but in all the social games people play in offices and so on. When hirings and promotions come up, white men are always last in line. We pay the brunt of the tax burden in society and everyone else, with very few exceptions, lives on the back of our productivity. To put up with this is to live as a slave, and it is time to be free.
Absolutely, that particular line was ridiculous. Very Stockholm Syndrome-ish 👀
Try getting a job in academia or govt or participating in politics in a blue state as a white man. The unholy alliance between corporate America and DEI radicals has been to leave old white men in positions of power untouched and to make up for it by systematically excluding young white and asian men from elite opportunities in education, tech, medicine, banking etc. obviously white and Asian men are still there but in a far fewer numbers than a fair process would produce and you generally have to have the right parents.
This destruction of meritocracy has resulted in the current competency crisis
Yeah the clumsy Harris messaging guilting men into voting democrat is a preview for when the system will try to shame white men into sustaining it even while that same system tries to exterminate them, or at least castrate them.
I think it might be ok now
Hope so for the sake of my two boys
Nailed it.
Very well written!
If only i could believe that even a single member of the group it’s addressed will ever actually read it…
🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼